I bought my Red Sub in 1984. It was new at a local small jeweler. I paid C$900 on sale as the store was relocating. By 1989 the face had become so dull it was all but invisible at night and not knowing any better or how unique the red lettering was I had a Rolex jeweler replace the dial. Been kicking myself ever since I learned of the value of that dial...that I forgot to ask the jeweler for. Damn!